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Bill Maher Unloads On Newsom, Demands To Know Why He Didn’t Cut Red Tape "When We Were Not On Fire"
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Ubiquitous
2025-01-17 09:30:45 UTC
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Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher laid into Governor Gavin Newsom during a
recent TMZ interview, arguing that if California leadership could cut through
oppressive regulations and “red tape,” they should have done so before the
southern part of the state had burned to the ground.

Maher argued that it wasn’t really a Left or Right issue, but one of
accountability, telling TMZ hosts Harvey Levin and Charles Latibeaudiere that
he’d had previous run-ins with California’s extensive building regulations
when he had tried to install a shed and some solar panels on his own
property.

“I always think there’s a middle of the road, actual practical solution to
everything and for this I would say, was California’s uber progressive
politics the cause of this fire? Of course not. Did it impede them to some
degree? Absolutely. That’s the margin of error that I’m saying we can’t abide
by anymore,” Maher explained.

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The comedian, who had previously detailed his own difficulties with the
state’s excessive red tape on his own show — HBO’s “Real Time” — said that he
was in favor of holding all government officials accountable.

“Now, as far as the red tape, I see that they’re all — Newsom, Bass — they’re
all saying, we’re going to cut red tape, as if they’re doing us a favor,”
Maher continued. “My question is, well, if you can do it now, why didn’t you
always do it? Obviously, it can be done. It’s not a favor to us to cut the
red tape. Why do we live in this state, in this red tape nightmare the other
times of the year when we’re not on fire?”

Newsom announced that he would slash red tape for residents who chose to
rebuild in the aftermath of the devastating fires, and also promised to
prosecute any developers who attempted to sweep in and buy up the land.

Toward that end, the Democrat governor signed an executive order on Tuesday
“barring opportunist and predatory investors from making unsolicited
undervalue offers to families impacted by the firestorms to buy their land,
taking advantage by offering fast cash for destroyed property.”

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BTR1701
2025-01-17 18:41:51 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher laid into Governor Gavin Newsom during a
recent TMZ interview, arguing that if California leadership could cut through
oppressive regulations and “red tape,” they should have done so before the
southern part of the state had burned to the ground.
Maher argued that it wasn’t really a Left or Right issue, but one of
accountability, telling TMZ hosts Harvey Levin and Charles Latibeaudiere that
he’d had previous run-ins with California’s extensive building regulations
when he had tried to install a shed and some solar panels on his own
property.
“I always think there’s a middle of the road, actual practical solution to
everything and for this I would say, was California’s uber progressive
politics the cause of this fire? Of course not. Did it impede them to some
degree? Absolutely. That’s the margin of error that I’m saying we can’t abide
by anymore,” Maher explained.
http://youtu.be/fUBeo3CQ70A
The comedian, who had previously detailed his own difficulties with the
state’s excessive red tape on his own show — HBO’s “Real Time” — said that he
was in favor of holding all government officials accountable.
“Now, as far as the red tape, I see that they’re all — Newsom, Bass — they’re
all saying, we’re going to cut red tape, as if they’re doing us a favor,”
Maher continued. “My question is, well, if you can do it now, why didn’t you
always do it? Obviously, it can be done. It’s not a favor to us to cut the
red tape. Why do we live in this state, in this red tape nightmare the other
times of the year when we’re not on fire?”
This is always the question. Whenever something catastrophic happens, they
always give us a 'break' on all the bullshit they heap on us during times of
tranquility, which begs the question as to why all this crap was necessary in
the first place.

My garage door broke. You'd think all you would have to do is call a garage
door company, buy a new one, and have them come install it. And that's they
way it would happen in 49 out of the 50 states. But here in California, I had
to have the city come and inspect it, then the county had to sign off on it,
then I had to get a permit from the *state* to replace my garage door. There
is no conceivable reason why the State of California had to be involved in any
way, shape, or form in me replacing a broken garage door.

If I had to go through all that bullshit just to fix a door, imagine what
these people on the West Side will be facing trying to rebuild their entire
homes.

The Democrats here are rushing to try to clear away all this red tape because
they're terrified that once tens of thousands of people run full tilt in the
wall of impenetrable bureaucracy that exists here, it will, at long last, be
the tipping point that motivates them to all start voting Republican.
Post by Ubiquitous
Newsom announced that he would slash red tape for residents who chose to
rebuild in the aftermath of the devastating fires, and also promised to
prosecute any developers who attempted to sweep in and buy up the land.
How can you prosecute someone for just offering money to buy property?

It's not illegal to offer to buy someone's land from them.
Post by Ubiquitous
Toward that end, the Democrat governor signed an executive order on Tuesday
"barring opportunist and predatory investors from making unsolicited
undervalue offers to families impacted by the firestorms to buy their land,
taking advantage by offering fast cash for destroyed property."
Why does Newsom think he has the authority to do this? This is literally
writing new law. Only the state legislature has the authority to amend or add
to the California Property Code.

And what's the legal definition of "undervalue"? A piece of property's value
is whatever the market says it is. If people can't sell their burned out lots
for what they were worth pre-fire because no one is willing to pay that price,
then someone offering a lower price isn't making an "undervalue" offer.

At least Newsom isn't being as oppressive as the Hawaiian governor was after
the Lahaina fire. He didn't bar people from making offers, he banned the
*owners* of the properties from selling their land to anyone in the aftermath
of the fire, which seems like a bright-line violation of the 5th Amendment to
me.
Rhino
2025-01-17 20:50:57 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher laid into Governor Gavin Newsom during a
recent TMZ interview, arguing that if California leadership could cut through
oppressive regulations and “red tape,” they should have done so before the
southern part of the state had burned to the ground.
Maher argued that it wasn’t really a Left or Right issue, but one of
accountability, telling TMZ hosts Harvey Levin and Charles Latibeaudiere that
he’d had previous run-ins with California’s extensive building regulations
when he had tried to install a shed and some solar panels on his own
property.
“I always think there’s a middle of the road, actual practical solution to
everything and for this I would say, was California’s uber progressive
politics the cause of this fire? Of course not. Did it impede them to some
degree? Absolutely. That’s the margin of error that I’m saying we can’t abide
by anymore,” Maher explained.
http://youtu.be/fUBeo3CQ70A
The comedian, who had previously detailed his own difficulties with the
state’s excessive red tape on his own show — HBO’s “Real Time” — said that he
was in favor of holding all government officials accountable.
“Now, as far as the red tape, I see that they’re all — Newsom, Bass — they’re
all saying, we’re going to cut red tape, as if they’re doing us a favor,”
Maher continued. “My question is, well, if you can do it now, why didn’t you
always do it? Obviously, it can be done. It’s not a favor to us to cut the
red tape. Why do we live in this state, in this red tape nightmare the other
times of the year when we’re not on fire?”
This is always the question. Whenever something catastrophic happens, they
always give us a 'break' on all the bullshit they heap on us during times of
tranquility, which begs the question as to why all this crap was necessary in
the first place.
My garage door broke. You'd think all you would have to do is call a garage
door company, buy a new one, and have them come install it. And that's they
way it would happen in 49 out of the 50 states. But here in California, I had
to have the city come and inspect it, then the county had to sign off on it,
then I had to get a permit from the *state* to replace my garage door. There
is no conceivable reason why the State of California had to be involved in any
way, shape, or form in me replacing a broken garage door.
If I had to go through all that bullshit just to fix a door, imagine what
these people on the West Side will be facing trying to rebuild their entire
homes.
The Democrats here are rushing to try to clear away all this red tape because
they're terrified that once tens of thousands of people run full tilt in the
wall of impenetrable bureaucracy that exists here, it will, at long last, be
the tipping point that motivates them to all start voting Republican.
Post by Ubiquitous
Newsom announced that he would slash red tape for residents who chose to
rebuild in the aftermath of the devastating fires, and also promised to
prosecute any developers who attempted to sweep in and buy up the land.
How can you prosecute someone for just offering money to buy property?
It's not illegal to offer to buy someone's land from them.
Post by Ubiquitous
Toward that end, the Democrat governor signed an executive order on Tuesday
"barring opportunist and predatory investors from making unsolicited
undervalue offers to families impacted by the firestorms to buy their land,
taking advantage by offering fast cash for destroyed property."
Why does Newsom think he has the authority to do this? This is literally
writing new law. Only the state legislature has the authority to amend or add
to the California Property Code.
And what's the legal definition of "undervalue"? A piece of property's value
is whatever the market says it is. If people can't sell their burned out lots
for what they were worth pre-fire because no one is willing to pay that price,
then someone offering a lower price isn't making an "undervalue" offer.
Your libertarian inclinations are clear from this paragraph ;-) You
believe in the Market. But Newsom and his crew don't. They think it is
government's job to set the value of everything and they'll do that on
whatever arbitrary basis they think they can get away. You can bet he's
going to base "undervalue" on something like what similar properties in
the same area sold for before the fire, completely ignoring the fact
that the value of the property is considerably less now throughout that
area.
Post by BTR1701
At least Newsom isn't being as oppressive as the Hawaiian governor was after
the Lahaina fire. He didn't bar people from making offers, he banned the
*owners* of the properties from selling their land to anyone in the aftermath
of the fire, which seems like a bright-line violation of the 5th Amendment to
me.
Did anyone challenge the Hawaii governor in court over his lunatic
regulation? If unchallenged, even the most preposterous of laws tends to
remain in force. Ditto for Newsom's attempt to preclude "undervalue"
offers.
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Rhino
anim8rfsk
2025-01-17 23:29:56 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher laid into Governor Gavin Newsom during a
recent TMZ interview, arguing that if California leadership could cut through
oppressive regulations and “red tape,” they should have done so before the
southern part of the state had burned to the ground.
Maher argued that it wasn’t really a Left or Right issue, but one of
accountability, telling TMZ hosts Harvey Levin and Charles Latibeaudiere that
he’d had previous run-ins with California’s extensive building regulations
when he had tried to install a shed and some solar panels on his own
property.
“I always think there’s a middle of the road, actual practical solution to
everything and for this I would say, was California’s uber progressive
politics the cause of this fire? Of course not. Did it impede them to some
degree? Absolutely. That’s the margin of error that I’m saying we can’t abide
by anymore,” Maher explained.
http://youtu.be/fUBeo3CQ70A
The comedian, who had previously detailed his own difficulties with the
state’s excessive red tape on his own show — HBO’s “Real Time” — said that he
was in favor of holding all government officials accountable.
“Now, as far as the red tape, I see that they’re all — Newsom, Bass — they’re
all saying, we’re going to cut red tape, as if they’re doing us a favor,”
Maher continued. “My question is, well, if you can do it now, why didn’t you
always do it? Obviously, it can be done. It’s not a favor to us to cut the
red tape. Why do we live in this state, in this red tape nightmare the other
times of the year when we’re not on fire?”
This is always the question. Whenever something catastrophic happens, they
always give us a 'break' on all the bullshit they heap on us during times of
tranquility, which begs the question as to why all this crap was necessary in
the first place.
My garage door broke. You'd think all you would have to do is call a garage
door company, buy a new one, and have them come install it. And that's they
way it would happen in 49 out of the 50 states. But here in California, I had
to have the city come and inspect it, then the county had to sign off on it,
then I had to get a permit from the *state* to replace my garage door. There
is no conceivable reason why the State of California had to be involved in any
way, shape, or form in me replacing a broken garage door.
If I had to go through all that bullshit just to fix a door, imagine what
these people on the West Side will be facing trying to rebuild their entire
homes.
The Democrats here are rushing to try to clear away all this red tape because
they're terrified that once tens of thousands of people run full tilt in the
wall of impenetrable bureaucracy that exists here, it will, at long last, be
the tipping point that motivates them to all start voting Republican.
Post by Ubiquitous
Newsom announced that he would slash red tape for residents who chose to
rebuild in the aftermath of the devastating fires, and also promised to
prosecute any developers who attempted to sweep in and buy up the land.
How can you prosecute someone for just offering money to buy property?
It's not illegal to offer to buy someone's land from them.
Post by Ubiquitous
Toward that end, the Democrat governor signed an executive order on Tuesday
"barring opportunist and predatory investors from making unsolicited
undervalue offers to families impacted by the firestorms to buy their land,
taking advantage by offering fast cash for destroyed property."
Why does Newsom think he has the authority to do this? This is literally
writing new law. Only the state legislature has the authority to amend or add
to the California Property Code.
And what's the legal definition of "undervalue"? A piece of property's value
is whatever the market says it is. If people can't sell their burned out lots
for what they were worth pre-fire because no one is willing to pay that price,
then someone offering a lower price isn't making an "undervalue" offer.
Your libertarian inclinations are clear from this paragraph ;-) You
believe in the Market. But Newsom and his crew don't. They think it is
government's job to set the value of everything and they'll do that on
whatever arbitrary basis they think they can get away. You can bet he's
going to base "undervalue" on something like what similar properties in
the same area sold for before the fire, completely ignoring the fact
that the value of the property is considerably less now throughout that
area.
Post by BTR1701
At least Newsom isn't being as oppressive as the Hawaiian governor was after
the Lahaina fire. He didn't bar people from making offers, he banned the
*owners* of the properties from selling their land to anyone in the aftermath
of the fire, which seems like a bright-line violation of the 5th Amendment to
me.
Did anyone challenge the Hawaii governor in court over his lunatic
regulation? If unchallenged, even the most preposterous of laws tends to
remain in force. Ditto for Newsom's attempt to preclude "undervalue"
offers.
The governor of Hawaii has ways and means. His authority supersedes that of
any country in the world.
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BTR1701
2025-01-18 19:06:59 UTC
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Post by Ubiquitous
Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher laid into Governor Gavin Newsom during a
recent TMZ interview, arguing that if California leadership could cut through
oppressive regulations and red tape, they should have done so before the
southern part of the state had burned to the ground.
Maher argued that it wasn't really a Left or Right issue, but one of
accountability, telling TMZ hosts Harvey Levin and Charles Latibeaudiere that
he'd had previous run-ins with California's extensive building regulations
when he had tried to install a shed and some solar panels on his own
property.
"I always think there's a middle of the road, actual practical solution to
everything and for this I would say, was California's uber progressive
politics the cause of this fire? Of course not. Did it impede them to some
degree? Absolutely. That's the margin of error that I'm saying we can't abide
by anymore," Maher explained.
The comedian, who had previously detailed his own difficulties with the
state's excessive red tape on his own show-- HBO's REAL TIME-- said that he
was in favor of holding all government officials accountable.
"Now, as far as the red tape, I see that they're all-- Newsom, Bass-- they're
all saying, we're going to cut red tape, as if they're doing us a favor,"
Maher continued. "My question is, well, if you can do it now, why didn't you
always do it? Obviously, it can be done. It's not a favor to us to cut the
red tape. Why do we live in this state, in this red tape nightmare the other
times of the year when we're not on fire?"
This is always the question. Whenever something catastrophic happens, they
always give us a 'break' on all the bullshit they heap on us during times of
tranquility, which begs the question as to why all this crap was necessary in
the first place.
My garage door broke. You'd think all you would have to do is call a garage
door company, buy a new one, and have them come install it. And that's they
way it would happen in 49 out of the 50 states. But here in California, I had
to have the city come and inspect it, then the county had to sign off on it,
then I had to get a permit from the *state* to replace my garage door. There
is no conceivable reason why the State of California had to be involved in any
way, shape, or form in me replacing a broken garage door.
If I had to go through all that bullshit just to fix a door, imagine what
these people on the West Side will be facing trying to rebuild their entire
homes.
The Democrats here are rushing to try to clear away all this red tape because
they're terrified that once tens of thousands of people run full tilt in the
wall of impenetrable bureaucracy that exists here, it will, at long last, be
the tipping point that motivates them to all start voting Republican.
Post by Ubiquitous
Toward that end, the Democrat governor signed an executive order on Tuesday
"barring opportunist and predatory investors from making unsolicited
undervalue offers to families impacted by the firestorms to buy their land,
taking advantage by offering fast cash for destroyed property."
Why does Newsom think he has the authority to do this? This is literally
writing new law. Only the state legislature has the authority to amend or add
to the California Property Code.
And what's the legal definition of "undervalue"? A piece of property's value
is whatever the market says it is. If people can't sell their burned out lots
for what they were worth pre-fire because no one is willing to pay that price,
then someone offering a lower price isn't making an "undervalue" offer.
Your libertarian inclinations are clear from this paragraph ;-) You
believe in the Market. But Newsom and his crew don't. They think it is
government's job to set the value of everything and they'll do that on
whatever arbitrary basis they think they can get away. You can bet he's
going to base "undervalue" on something like what similar properties in
the same area sold for before the fire, completely ignoring the fact
that the value of the property is considerably less now throughout that
area.
How government works:

--It breaks your legs

--It sells you a wheelchair

--It taxes the wheelchair

--It regulates your use of the wheelchair

Then it assures you that without the government, you wouldn't be getting
around so well.

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