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Biden Famously Lied About Being Arrested in South Africa. His Use of Taxpayer Dollars on the Trip Also Brought Scrutiny, Documents Show. Henry Kissinger spent his last day as secretary of state looking into Joe and Frank Biden's taxpayer-funded Africa junket
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Ubiquitous
2024-04-30 02:05:03 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden’s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president’s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.

At the time, though, the trip generated scrutiny for another reason—Biden’s
use of federal funds, and the decision to have his brother tag along in lieu
of staff. Biden’s political rivals claimed the trip highlighted the senator’s
corrupt tendencies. The trip even drew the eyes of the State Department,
where Henry Kissinger spent his last day as secretary combing over Biden’s
receipts, previously unreported State Department cables show.

"Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. Traveled with [Congressional delegation Rep.
Charles Diggs (D., Mich.)] ... Would appreciate embassy cabling amounts
returned and pouching xeroxed copies of recipients," Kissinger wrote to the
U.S. embassies in Dakar, Freetown, Nairobi, and the American consulate in
Cape Town on Jan. 19, 1977.

This report is based on State Department cables obtained through Freedom of
Information Act requests and records from the time of Biden’s trip. Together,
they show that Biden has long drawn scrutiny for using the perks of elected
office to benefit family members.

Biden’s brother, Frank, was a senior at San Francisco State University in
November 1976. Biden himself was halfway through his first Senate term and
was scheduled to join a congressional junket to Africa. The trip, cosponsored
by The African Institute, brought Biden and other lawmakers to three
countries to bolster ties between the United States and African governments.

Biden treated the trip more like a vacation. He opted not to bring any
members of his staff, as is common for congressional junkets, and instead
arranged for Frank to join. Biden obtained special permission from the State
Department to bring him. Records obtained through a Freedom of Information
Act request show that Frank Biden did not have a passport before the trip,
and a State Department cable indicates he was issued one three days before
his departure.

"I didn’t take my staff, so he was my staff, and for company," Biden said in
1978. "I wasn’t married then."

Years later, Biden would say that this trip brought him to the heart of
apartheid South Africa. After his arrest story was discredited, Biden claimed
he was "detained" and "separated" by South African officials in Johannesburg
at the airport. But there is no evidence Biden was ever in Johannesburg, the
Washington Examiner reported.

The Biden brothers stayed at hotels paid for by the State Department, which
also afforded Sen. Biden a $75 per diem, for which Kissinger requested
receipts. Kissinger died in November 2023. Biden said at the time of
Kissinger’s death that, although the two "often disagreed," he will miss
Kissinger’s "fierce intellect and profound strategic focus."

The trip also became a central issue in Biden’s first reelection campaign in
1978.

"When my senator makes at least five trips abroad at taxpayer’s expense, when
he claims one stop was a plane refueling stop, and I find out he went on a
wildlife photo safari, when he uses his position to take a relative along on
a foreign junket without reimbursing the person’s airplane expenses—that’s an
issue," Biden’s opponent, James Baxter Jr., said.

Biden denied that they went on a safari, saying that they merely passed a
wildlife park on the way to an airport.

Frank Biden would go on to hold senior positions for his brother’s campaigns
and the Clinton administration. He is now a lobbyist in Florida and has
acknowledged that his brother’s political career has helped advance his own,
going so far as to place an advertisement for his firm touting his connection
to the president on Inauguration Day 2021.

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Let's go Brandon!
pothead
2024-05-02 21:24:08 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden’s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president’s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
At the time, though, the trip generated scrutiny for another reason—Biden’s
use of federal funds, and the decision to have his brother tag along in lieu
of staff. Biden’s political rivals claimed the trip highlighted the senator’s
corrupt tendencies. The trip even drew the eyes of the State Department,
where Henry Kissinger spent his last day as secretary combing over Biden’s
receipts, previously unreported State Department cables show.
"Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. Traveled with [Congressional delegation Rep.
Charles Diggs (D., Mich.)] ... Would appreciate embassy cabling amounts
returned and pouching xeroxed copies of recipients," Kissinger wrote to the
U.S. embassies in Dakar, Freetown, Nairobi, and the American consulate in
Cape Town on Jan. 19, 1977.
This report is based on State Department cables obtained through Freedom of
Information Act requests and records from the time of Biden’s trip. Together,
they show that Biden has long drawn scrutiny for using the perks of elected
office to benefit family members.
Biden’s brother, Frank, was a senior at San Francisco State University in
November 1976. Biden himself was halfway through his first Senate term and
was scheduled to join a congressional junket to Africa. The trip, cosponsored
by The African Institute, brought Biden and other lawmakers to three
countries to bolster ties between the United States and African governments.
Biden treated the trip more like a vacation. He opted not to bring any
members of his staff, as is common for congressional junkets, and instead
arranged for Frank to join. Biden obtained special permission from the State
Department to bring him. Records obtained through a Freedom of Information
Act request show that Frank Biden did not have a passport before the trip,
and a State Department cable indicates he was issued one three days before
his departure.
"I didn’t take my staff, so he was my staff, and for company," Biden said in
1978. "I wasn’t married then."
Years later, Biden would say that this trip brought him to the heart of
apartheid South Africa. After his arrest story was discredited, Biden claimed
he was "detained" and "separated" by South African officials in Johannesburg
at the airport. But there is no evidence Biden was ever in Johannesburg, the
Washington Examiner reported.
The Biden brothers stayed at hotels paid for by the State Department, which
also afforded Sen. Biden a $75 per diem, for which Kissinger requested
receipts. Kissinger died in November 2023. Biden said at the time of
Kissinger’s death that, although the two "often disagreed," he will miss
Kissinger’s "fierce intellect and profound strategic focus."
The trip also became a central issue in Biden’s first reelection campaign in
1978.
"When my senator makes at least five trips abroad at taxpayer’s expense, when
he claims one stop was a plane refueling stop, and I find out he went on a
wildlife photo safari, when he uses his position to take a relative along on
a foreign junket without reimbursing the person’s airplane expenses—that’s an
issue," Biden’s opponent, James Baxter Jr., said.
Biden denied that they went on a safari, saying that they merely passed a
wildlife park on the way to an airport.
Frank Biden would go on to hold senior positions for his brother’s campaigns
and the Clinton administration. He is now a lobbyist in Florida and has
acknowledged that his brother’s political career has helped advance his own,
going so far as to place an advertisement for his firm touting his connection
to the president on Inauguration Day 2021.
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Let's go Brandon!
Biden lies daily. You can tell when he is lying when he says something like "for real", "I'm not
kidding".

Last week Biden claimed he drove an 18 wheeler.

Still his best is cannibals eating his uncle Bose.
I don't think he can top that one.

Have you seen this on the MSM?
I haven't.
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pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
NoBody
2024-05-03 10:51:12 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden’s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president’s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
pothead
2024-05-03 20:00:17 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden’s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president’s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
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pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
John Doe
2024-05-03 20:29:03 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden’s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president’s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
NoBody
2024-05-04 13:49:48 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
John Doe
2024-05-04 19:33:10 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
This is simply so far from reality it defies comprehension. With Trump
you can start with the claim that he'd love to share his taxes as soon
as possible and that he had a better, cheaper healthcare plan for all.
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
As I said, Biden is a piker compared to a world-class liar like Trump
who must lie dozens of times per day, one of the latest being that he
was not allowed to testify in his financial fraud trial. If you
genuinely think Biden lies anywhere near as often as Trump, you should
get rid of your news source and start reading international news sources
if you've been falsely convinced the US sources always lie to you.
Governor Swill
2024-05-04 23:56:59 UTC
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This is simply so far from reality it defies comprehension. With Trump
you can start with the claim that he'd love to share his taxes as soon
as possible and that he had a better, cheaper healthcare plan for all.
The fact is there is so much wrong about Trump that it's more than anybody could hold in
their head. It would take pages, chapters even to track his inconsistencies and outright
lies. I've see him take three different positions on one topic in a single interview.

Trump reminds me of Zaphod Beeblebrox more than anybody else in the office ever has.

Swill
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Don't spend money you don't have, spend money *other* people don't have.

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NoBody
2024-05-05 14:02:19 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
This is simply so far from reality it defies comprehension. With Trump
you can start with the claim that he'd love to share his taxes as soon
as possible and that he had a better, cheaper healthcare plan for all.
Every word out of Biden's mouth is a lie but, since no one counts, you
don't know.

Such is the stupidity of the left.
Post by John Doe
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
As I said, Biden is a piker compared to a world-class liar like Trump
Right...lies don't matter when you're on his side.
Mike Colangelo
2024-05-05 15:03:17 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
This is simply so far from reality it defies comprehension. With Trump
you can start with the claim that he'd love to share his taxes as soon
as possible and that he had a better, cheaper healthcare plan for all.
Every word out of Biden's mouth is a lie
That's a lie.
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
As I said, Biden is a piker compared to a world-class liar like Trump
Right
Right.
pothead
2024-05-04 21:55:16 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.

When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
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pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
John Doe
2024-05-04 22:31:03 UTC
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Post by NoBody
Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical
politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.

It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for
lying.
Matt Singer
2024-05-04 22:35:07 UTC
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Post by NoBody
Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR
for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the
media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he
told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran into the
tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical politicians,
meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for lying.
Lying is central to Trump's identity. He lies because he knows his base — the
deplorables — prefer lies to the truth. A Trump *friend* (!!!) said that Trump
would lie about the time of day, "just for the practice."
Governor Swill
2024-05-05 00:02:30 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR
for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the
media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he
told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran into the
tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical politicians,
meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for lying.
Lying is central to Trump's identity. He lies because he knows his base — the
deplorables — prefer lies to the truth. A Trump *friend* (!!!) said that Trump
would lie about the time of day, "just for the practice."
Certainly he'll lie when the truth would have served him better.

Swill
--
If there's one thing the Republicans have taught us about deficit spending, it's this:
Don't spend money you don't have, spend money *other* people don't have.

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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pothead
2024-05-04 22:45:20 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical
politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for
lying.
I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
With Joe Biden it's just complete, bold-faced lies and he tells them multiple times as well.

So for example, Trump will say something like "we had 20k people at last night's rally at Dodger
Stadium when there might have been 5k people.

Joe Biden would come up with something like by father was Jackie Robinson's trainer and stood with
him fighting racism. Really. True. No joke.

Either way I find it funny on both sides.
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pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Gary Roselles
2024-05-04 22:46:36 UTC
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Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical
politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for
lying.
I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or
You can't sanitize it. Trump lies.
Governor Swill
2024-05-05 00:03:21 UTC
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I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
If he's THAT stupid, why do you support him for President?

Swill
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If there's one thing the Republicans have taught us about deficit spending, it's this:
Don't spend money you don't have, spend money *other* people don't have.

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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NoBody
2024-05-05 14:06:43 UTC
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I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
If he's THAT stupid, why do you support him for President?
Swill
Why did you chop the rest of the stament and turn it into an attack on
Trump? His response was very balanced and worthy of an honest reply.
Whoops! My mistake since you don't do honest.
NoBody
2024-05-06 13:37:55 UTC
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On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:03:21 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
If he's THAT stupid, why do you support him for President?
Swill
Why did you chop the rest of the stament and turn it into an attack on
Trump? His response was very balanced and worthy of an honest reply.
Whoops! My mistake since you don't do honest.
And Swilly the troll has nothing of value to offer.
Matt Singer
2024-05-06 15:41:55 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:03:21 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
If he's THAT stupid, why do you support him for President?
Swill
Why did you chop the rest of the stament and turn it into an attack on
Trump? His response was very balanced and worthy of an honest reply.
Whoops! My mistake since you don't do honest.
And Swilly the troll has nothing of value to offer.
He has better things to do than to respond to your worthless garbage.
NoBody
2024-05-07 12:59:06 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:03:21 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
If he's THAT stupid, why do you support him for President?
Swill
Why did you chop the rest of the stament and turn it into an attack on
Trump? His response was very balanced and worthy of an honest reply.
Whoops! My mistake since you don't do honest.
And Swilly the troll has nothing of value to offer.
He has better things to do than to respond to your worthless garbage.
Poor widdle Rudely.
Stamping his tiny feet.
Matt Singer
2024-05-07 17:41:40 UTC
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Post by NoBody
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:03:21 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
If he's THAT stupid, why do you support him for President?
Swill
Why did you chop the rest of the stament and turn it into an attack on
Trump? His response was very balanced and worthy of an honest reply.
Whoops! My mistake since you don't do honest.
And Swilly the troll has nothing of value to offer.
That statement is childish foot-stamping.
Post by NoBody
Post by Matt Singer
He has better things to do than to respond to your worthless garbage.
Poor widdle Rudely.
Stamping his tiny feet.
Your concession of defeat is gleefully noted.

You really do look even more infantile than at other times when you whine about
someone growing bored with you. You *are* extremely tedious, and people's
patience runs out.
NoBody
2024-05-05 14:05:25 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical
politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for
lying.
I find Trump tends to exaggerate a lot or simply makes a false statement because he may not even
realize it's wrong.
With Joe Biden it's just complete, bold-faced lies and he tells them multiple times as well.
So for example, Trump will say something like "we had 20k people at last night's rally at Dodger
Stadium when there might have been 5k people.
Joe Biden would come up with something like by father was Jackie Robinson's trainer and stood with
him fighting racism. Really. True. No joke.
Either way I find it funny on both sides.
That's the most balanced interpretation I've seen. It's a shame that
the left refuses to see the obvious.
NoBody
2024-05-05 14:04:04 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical
politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.
How do you know since the count is not tracked? BTW, many of the
"lies" attributed to Trump were leftist spin of statements."
Post by John Doe
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for
lying.
If that were true, then we'd have a number for Biden.
pothead
2024-05-05 15:35:10 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On 5/3/2024 2:00 PM, pothead
wrote:https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Rachel+Levine&t=newext&atb=v393-1&iax=images&ia=images
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as the scene for the
president?s discredited claim that he was arrested "on the streets of Soweto"
in apartheid South Africa when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson
Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's total,
there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little late to
the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example. They
circle the wagons around Biden and the democrats to protect them while the media spends the
majority it's time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many lies he told. They were also
keeping a live, running total of COVID deaths.
As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with typical
politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than dozens a day.
How do you know since the count is not tracked? BTW, many of the
"lies" attributed to Trump were leftist spin of statements."
Post by John Doe
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press for
lying.
If that were true, then we'd have a number for Biden.
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are self grandiose exaggerations.
Trump is a narcissist which is no secret and narcissists tend to exaggerate.

Unlike Joe Biden who tells blatant lies.
Stuff like a professorship at a college.
Driving an 18 wheeler.
Escaping a major house fire.
His uncle being eaten by cannibals.
And many, many more.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-05 18:10:02 UTC
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Post by John Doe
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Post by NoBody
On 5/3/2024 2:00 PM, pothead
wrote:https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Rachel+Levine&t=newext&atb=v393-1&iax=i
mages&ia=images
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Post by pothead
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 21:05:03 -0500, Ubiquitous
Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as
the scene for the president?s discredited claim that he was
arrested "on the streets of Soweto" in apartheid South Africa
when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's
total, there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little
late to the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example. They circle the wagons around Biden and the
democrats to protect them while the media spends the majority it's
time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many
lies he told. They were also keeping a live, running total of COVID
deaths. As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared
from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with
typical politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than
dozens a day.
How do you know since the count is not tracked? BTW, many of the
"lies" attributed to Trump were leftist spin of statements."
Post by John Doe
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press
for lying.
If that were true, then we'd have a number for Biden.
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are
self grandiose exaggerations.
They are lies.

Even you cannot deny that.



Who lied about Rafael Cruz killing JFK?

Who lied about having "the biggest inauguration
crowd in history??

Who was it who lied about the US murder rate
being the highest in 50 years?

Who was it who lied about getting the highest
electoral college vote in history?

Who was it who lied about Obama tapping his
person phone?

Who was it who lied about opposing the Iraq
war?

Who was it who lied about no collusion between
the Trump campaign and Russia?

Who was it lied about not playing golf if he
became president?

Who was it who lied about signing more bills
into law than any other president?

Who was it who lied about the FBI reporting
to the president in person?

Who was it who lied by "stolen election"?

Who was it who lied about millions of illegals
voting for Hillary?

Who was it who lied about Covid disappearing
in the summer heat?

Who was it who lied about Stormy Daniels?

Who was it who lied about not playing golf
if he became president?

Who was it who lied about releasing his
tax returns?
John Doe
2024-05-05 23:22:22 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
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Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On 5/3/2024 2:00 PM, pothead
wrote:https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Rachel+Levine&t=newext&atb=v393-1&iax=i
mages&ia=images
Post by NoBody
Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
Post by pothead
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 21:05:03 -0500, Ubiquitous
Today, Joe Biden?s 1976 Africa junket is best remembered as
the scene for the president?s discredited claim that he was
arrested "on the streets of Soweto" in apartheid South Africa
when trying to see civil rights leader Nelson Mandela.
This guy puts the Babylon Bee to shame...
So where are all all the media publications and Usenet leftists
posting the count of all his lies?
I'm certain that if Biden ever reaches 0.01 percent of Trump's
total, there will be intense reporting.
Pretty sure he long since surpassed anything Trump said.
Post by pothead
Biden's lying will never be reported on in the left wing media.
They are still circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
This issue was acknowledged in 2020 on CNN, so you're a little
late to the party.
What's their excuse for not tracking Biden's lies?
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example. They circle the wagons around Biden and the
democrats to protect them while the media spends the majority it's
time attacking Trump and the republicans.
When Trump was POTUS, CNN was keeping a running total of how many
lies he told. They were also keeping a live, running total of COVID
deaths. As soon as Biden became POTUS, both of those disappeared
from CNN.
Absolutely true. But the rest of the story is that Trump's number ran
into the tens of thousands. Biden's number is right in line with
typical politicians, meaning maybe dozens over a career rather than
dozens a day.
How do you know since the count is not tracked? BTW, many of the
"lies" attributed to Trump were leftist spin of statements."
Post by John Doe
It's only normal that the guy who lies ALL THE TIME gets more press
for lying.
If that were true, then we'd have a number for Biden.
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are
self grandiose exaggerations.
They are lies.
Even you cannot deny that.
Who lied about Rafael Cruz killing JFK?
Who lied about having "the biggest inauguration
crowd in history??
Who was it who lied about the US murder rate
being the highest in 50 years?
Who was it who lied about getting the highest
electoral college vote in history?
Who was it who lied about Obama tapping his
person phone?
Who was it who lied about opposing the Iraq
war?
Who was it who lied about no collusion between
the Trump campaign and Russia?
Who was it lied about not playing golf if he
became president?
Who was it who lied about signing more bills
into law than any other president?
Who was it who lied about the FBI reporting
to the president in person?
Who was it who lied by "stolen election"?
Who was it who lied about millions of illegals
voting for Hillary?
Who was it who lied about Covid disappearing
in the summer heat?
Who was it who lied about Stormy Daniels?
Who was it who lied about not playing golf
if he became president?
Who was it who lied about releasing his
tax returns?
Good list. A few of Trump's followers make it clear why the Emperor's
Clothes illustration came to be.
Governor Swill
2024-05-06 01:38:06 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are
self grandiose exaggerations.
They are lies.
Even you cannot deny that.
Who lied about Rafael Cruz killing JFK?
Who lied about having "the biggest inauguration
crowd in history??
Who was it who lied about the US murder rate
being the highest in 50 years?
Who was it who lied about getting the highest
electoral college vote in history?
Who was it who lied about Obama tapping his
person phone?
Who was it who lied about opposing the Iraq
war?
Who was it who lied about no collusion between
the Trump campaign and Russia?
Who was it lied about not playing golf if he
became president?
Who was it who lied about signing more bills
into law than any other president?
Who was it who lied about the FBI reporting
to the president in person?
Who was it who lied by "stolen election"?
Who was it who lied about millions of illegals
voting for Hillary?
Who was it who lied about Covid disappearing
in the summer heat?
Who was it who lied about Stormy Daniels?
Who was it who lied about not playing golf
if he became president?
Who was it who lied about releasing his
tax returns?
You're only doing a partial list??

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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Mitchell Holman
2024-05-06 13:08:07 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are
self grandiose exaggerations.
They are lies.
Even you cannot deny that.
Who lied about Rafael Cruz killing JFK?
Who lied about having "the biggest inauguration
crowd in history??
Who was it who lied about the US murder rate
being the highest in 50 years?
Who was it who lied about getting the highest
electoral college vote in history?
Who was it who lied about Obama tapping his
person phone?
Who was it who lied about opposing the Iraq
war?
Who was it who lied about no collusion between
the Trump campaign and Russia?
Who was it lied about not playing golf if he
became president?
Who was it who lied about signing more bills
into law than any other president?
Who was it who lied about the FBI reporting
to the president in person?
Who was it who lied by "stolen election"?
Who was it who lied about millions of illegals
voting for Hillary?
Who was it who lied about Covid disappearing
in the summer heat?
Who was it who lied about Stormy Daniels?
Who was it who lied about not playing golf
if he became president?
Who was it who lied about releasing his
tax returns?
You're only doing a partial list??
A partial list is all the small
minds of Trump supporters can grasp.

They can't handle the full one....
Governor Swill
2024-05-07 01:26:29 UTC
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On Sun, 05 May 2024 18:10:02 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<snip>
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are
self grandiose exaggerations.
They are lies.
Even you cannot deny that.
Who lied about Rafael Cruz killing JFK?
Who lied about having "the biggest inauguration
crowd in history??
Who was it who lied about the US murder rate
being the highest in 50 years?
Who was it who lied about getting the highest
electoral college vote in history?
Who was it who lied about Obama tapping his
person phone?
Who was it who lied about opposing the Iraq
war?
Who was it who lied about no collusion between
the Trump campaign and Russia?
Who was it lied about not playing golf if he
became president?
Who was it who lied about signing more bills
into law than any other president?
Who was it who lied about the FBI reporting
to the president in person?
Who was it who lied by "stolen election"?
Who was it who lied about millions of illegals
voting for Hillary?
Who was it who lied about Covid disappearing
in the summer heat?
Who was it who lied about Stormy Daniels?
Who was it who lied about not playing golf
if he became president?
Who was it who lied about releasing his
tax returns?
You're only doing a partial list??
A partial list is all the small
minds of Trump supporters can grasp.
They can't handle the full one....
Oh. I thought you were going to say you had a day job. ;)

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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Governor Swill
2024-05-06 01:36:24 UTC
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Post by pothead
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are self grandiose exaggerations.
Which is another term for "lie".

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
NoBody
2024-05-06 13:07:29 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are self grandiose exaggerations.
Which is another term for "lie".
Swill
And you have no problem when Biden does it and the media covers it up.
Matt Singer
2024-05-06 15:28:11 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:36:24 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Besides being spun by the left, many of the so called Trump lies are self grandiose exaggerations.
Which is another term for "lie".
Swill
And you have no problem when Biden does it and the media covers it up.
Biden doesn't do it, so there's nothing for the media to "cover up."
Governor Swill
2024-05-05 00:01:18 UTC
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Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say that because you don't
know the difference between the news and editorializing.

The news is information.

Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.

Editorializing increases the farther you get from center. At the extreme left and right,
there is almost exclusively editorializing and virtually no credible information.

Swill
--
If there's one thing the Republicans have taught us about deficit spending, it's this:
Don't spend money you don't have, spend money *other* people don't have.

Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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NoBody
2024-05-05 14:07:58 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say that because you don't
know the difference between the news and editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Post by Governor Swill
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
pothead
2024-05-05 15:47:49 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say that because you don't
know the difference between the news and editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Post by Governor Swill
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7 commentary, editorializing and op-ed
type 'reporting'.

And the problem is that the citizens are so low information when it comes to current events and
especially politics, that they have no idea what is really going on.

Many of them can tell you who has the current lead on 'Dancing With The Stars' though or similar
such useless information.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-05 18:11:58 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.

You support that, right?
pothead
2024-05-05 18:34:43 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.
You support that, right?
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.

Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING like what passes for facts on the likes of the
various network news.
And that is on both sides.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-06 01:38:25 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.
You support that, right?
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave
the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't
pick up on it. He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING
like what passes for facts on the likes of the various network news.
And that is on both sides.
A simple "Yes" would do.
pothead
2024-05-06 01:51:29 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.
You support that, right?
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report t ?
4 - May 03 22:34 54:[68hx.1807 ] Re: Trump Refuses to Commit to Accepting 2024 Election
Results
5 - May 03 23:07 45:[68hx.1807 ] Re: Edgar Allan Poe'she news and leave
Post by Mitchell Holman
the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't
pick up on it. He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING
like what passes for facts on the likes of the various network news.
And that is on both sides.
A simple "Yes" would do.
Sorry.
I forgot that libbys have a very small brain capacity.
I will consider this in the future.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Governor Swill
2024-05-06 06:17:17 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.
You support that, right?
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report t ?
4 - May 03 22:34 54:[68hx.1807 ] Re: Trump Refuses to Commit to Accepting 2024 Election
Results
5 - May 03 23:07 45:[68hx.1807 ] Re: Edgar Allan Poe'she news and leave
the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Are you drunk?

Swill
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<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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Governor Swill
2024-05-06 01:46:07 UTC
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Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
Post by pothead
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
"Reality has a liberal bias." Or as Anderson Cooper once explained it, you can't travel
the globe covering wars and disasters without feeling compassion for people.

That's what today's liberalism is: Christian compassion run amok.
Post by pothead
He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING like what passes for facts on the likes of the
various network news.
And that is on both sides.
Finally.

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
NoBody
2024-05-06 13:14:19 UTC
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On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignroe that?
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
"Reality has a liberal bias." Or as Anderson Cooper once explained it, you can't travel
the globe covering wars and disasters without feeling compassion for people.
And yet faith based organizations are among the most generous of
givers. That's not liberal.
Post by Governor Swill
That's what today's liberalism is: Christian compassion run amok.
Christians rely on people's hearts to give, not the force of
government. Stop trying to divert from the liberals' dirty deads.
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING like what passes for facts on the likes of the
various network news.
And that is on both sides.
Finally.
But largely controlled by the left...unless you have a different
analysis you can provide us?
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
Matt Singer
2024-05-06 15:29:48 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
John Doe
2024-05-06 21:45:35 UTC
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Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.

Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
pothead
2024-05-06 23:56:08 UTC
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Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
Neither party is the same as it was even 15 years ago. the democrat party is not the party of JFK
nor is the republican party the party of Reagan.

I lean left on some issues and right on other issues.
I am pro-life however I believe the heartbeat rule/law is a good compromise. And as I do believe in
state's rights, this should be left up to the voters in each state.

As for banning books, movies, media and so forth, I am 100% against that as I am a proponent of
free speech within reason.
At the same time I do believe that some material is just not appropriate for children but that
decision should be made by the parents with input from teachers, librarians and so forth.

I prefer less government intervention, a strong military, a strong trade policy and a put America
first policy.

I believe the new green deal is a bunch of crap that is putting our national security at risk.
Climate change is most likely real but mankind can do little to change it and those who are
promoting drastic climate change rules are self serving.

As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing regulations on ICS vehicles
and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into this green stuff.
Why not let the market decide?
Why are the democrats so against that?

I voted Clinton who IMHO was sleazeball but a good POTUS.
I voted Obama.
I voted Reagan and both Bushes.
Admittedly Bush jr. was a disaster.

My biggest issue is the disastrous presidency that Biden's term has been. Biden has literally been
on the wrong side of every decision he has made. It's obvious he is a weak POTUS and favors China
over the US.

And if Trump made the same poor decisions that Biden has done, I would say the same.

So I am hardly a far right partisan but Joe Biden has to go. The man is and idiot and whomever is
pulling his strings is making one poor decision after another.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
John Doe
2024-05-07 00:26:47 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
Neither party is the same as it was even 15 years ago. the democrat party is not the party of JFK
nor is the republican party the party of Reagan.
I lean left on some issues and right on other issues.
I am pro-life however I believe the heartbeat rule/law is a good compromise. And as I do believe in
state's rights, this should be left up to the voters in each state.
As for banning books, movies, media and so forth, I am 100% against that as I am a proponent of
free speech within reason.
At the same time I do believe that some material is just not appropriate for children but that
decision should be made by the parents with input from teachers, librarians and so forth.
I prefer less government intervention, a strong military, a strong trade policy and a put America
first policy.
I believe the new green deal is a bunch of crap that is putting our national security at risk.
Climate change is most likely real but mankind can do little to change it and those who are
promoting drastic climate change rules are self serving.
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing regulations on ICS vehicles
and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into this green stuff.
Why not let the market decide?
Why are the democrats so against that?
I voted Clinton who IMHO was sleazeball but a good POTUS.
I voted Obama.
I voted Reagan and both Bushes.
Admittedly Bush jr. was a disaster.
My biggest issue is the disastrous presidency that Biden's term has been. Biden has literally been
on the wrong side of every decision he has made. It's obvious he is a weak POTUS and favors China
over the US.
And if Trump made the same poor decisions that Biden has done, I would say the same.
So I am hardly a far right partisan but Joe Biden has to go. The man is and idiot and whomever is
pulling his strings is making one poor decision after another.
I'm actually not that far away from most of your positions. Where I
differ is on our efforts to move to green energy and the Biden/Trump
assessment.

I continue to believe that the center 60 to 70% of the country agree on
many things. It's generally the screamers at the edges who make some on
both sides think the other side is all idiots.
pothead
2024-05-07 00:38:08 UTC
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Post by John Doe
Post by pothead
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
Neither party is the same as it was even 15 years ago. the democrat party is not the party of JFK
nor is the republican party the party of Reagan.
I lean left on some issues and right on other issues.
I am pro-life however I believe the heartbeat rule/law is a good compromise. And as I do believe in
state's rights, this should be left up to the voters in each state.
As for banning books, movies, media and so forth, I am 100% against that as I am a proponent of
free speech within reason.
At the same time I do believe that some material is just not appropriate for children but that
decision should be made by the parents with input from teachers, librarians and so forth.
I prefer less government intervention, a strong military, a strong trade policy and a put America
first policy.
I believe the new green deal is a bunch of crap that is putting our national security at risk.
Climate change is most likely real but mankind can do little to change it and those who are
promoting drastic climate change rules are self serving.
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing regulations on ICS vehicles
and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into this green stuff.
Why not let the market decide?
Why are the democrats so against that?
I voted Clinton who IMHO was sleazeball but a good POTUS.
I voted Obama.
I voted Reagan and both Bushes.
Admittedly Bush jr. was a disaster.
My biggest issue is the disastrous presidency that Biden's term has been. Biden has literally been
on the wrong side of every decision he has made. It's obvious he is a weak POTUS and favors China
over the US.
And if Trump made the same poor decisions that Biden has done, I would say the same.
So I am hardly a far right partisan but Joe Biden has to go. The man is and idiot and whomever is
pulling his strings is making one poor decision after another.
I'm actually not that far away from most of your positions. Where I
differ is on our efforts to move to green energy and the Biden/Trump
assessment.
I continue to believe that the center 60 to 70% of the country agree on
many things. It's generally the screamers at the edges who make some on
both sides think the other side is all idiots.
I would love to have 2 viable, non radical candidates, but it is what it is.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-07 01:48:38 UTC
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Post by pothead
I would love to have 2 viable, non radical candidates, but it is what it is.
Jeb Bush was pretty non radical.

Your party threw him aside in favor of Trump.

Whose fault is that?
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-07 01:45:35 UTC
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Post by pothead
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing
regulations on ICS vehicles and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into
this green stuff. Why not let the market decide?
Some of us can remember "let
the market decide" when it came
to food inspections and workplace
safety and tobacco sales and seat
belt laws and poisoned tylenals.

We also remember it was your
fellow conservatives who demanded
government ban private mask policies
and vaccination policies and private
drag shows and private trans treatment
and private abortion. What happened
to the "let the market decide" then?
NoBody
2024-05-07 12:52:48 UTC
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On Tue, 07 May 2024 01:45:35 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing
regulations on ICS vehicles and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into
this green stuff. Why not let the market decide?
Some of us can remember "let
the market decide" when it came
to food inspections and workplace
safety and tobacco sales and seat
belt laws and poisoned tylenals.
We also remember it was your
fellow conservatives who demanded
government ban private mask policies
and vaccination policies and private
drag shows and private trans treatment
and private abortion. What happened
to the "let the market decide" then?
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizzare. The government should
never have banned cigarettes especially in light of its push for weed.
The government never had any business forcing people to wear masks
(which has proven to have little to no benefit to stop the spread) or
forcing people to get vaccinated when the got Covid anyway. Their is
no such thing as a "private drag show" when children are involved
anymore than there is such a thing as a "private strip show" when
children are involved. There are some things government must do to
protect the innocent but it requires careful watching to ensure that
it does not overstep.
Siri Cruise
2024-05-07 20:21:19 UTC
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Post by NoBody
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizzare.
Abstraction is one of the important and human traits of our species.

Tell when you pass the exam.
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NoBody
2024-05-08 13:30:00 UTC
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On Tue, 7 May 2024 13:21:19 -0700, Siri Cruise
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by NoBody
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizzare.
Abstraction is one of the important and human traits of our species.
Abstration into irrlevance is the hallmark of someone who can't defend
their position.
Post by Siri Cruise
Tell when you pass the exam.
You pass this one with every post...
Irrelevance is your motto.
NoBody
2024-05-08 13:32:11 UTC
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On Tue, 7 May 2024 13:21:19 -0700, Siri Cruise
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by NoBody
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizzare.
Abstraction is one of the important and human traits of our species.
Tell when you pass the exam.
I note that you were unable to address *anything* I said.
Governor Swill
2024-05-09 11:41:30 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by NoBody
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizzare.
Abstraction is one of the important and human traits of our species.
Tell when you pass the exam.
. . . and Nobody was never heard from again.

Swill
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Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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Mitchell Holman
2024-05-09 13:31:00 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Tue, 7 May 2024 13:21:19 -0700, Siri Cruise
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by NoBody
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizzare.
Abstraction is one of the important and human traits of our species.
Tell when you pass the exam.
. . . and Nobody was never heard from again.
In a perfect world....
NoBody
2024-05-10 11:19:51 UTC
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On Thu, 09 May 2024 07:41:30 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by NoBody
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizzare.
Abstraction is one of the important and human traits of our species.
Tell when you pass the exam.
. . . and Nobody was never heard from again.
Swill
And yet here I am. Interesting dystopian reality you live in but then
you're a troll so there's that.
pothead
2024-05-07 20:37:52 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Tue, 07 May 2024 01:45:35 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing
regulations on ICS vehicles and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into
this green stuff. Why not let the market decide?
Some of us can remember "let
the market decide" when it cameMark Zuckerberg’s $300 Million Superyacht Sparks Controversy Amidst
Climate Activism
Post by NoBody
Post by Mitchell Holman
to food inspections and workplace
safety and tobacco sales and seat
belt laws and poisoned tylenals.
We also remember it was your
fellow conservatives who demanded
government ban private mask policies
and vaccination policies and private
drag shows and private trans treatment
and private abortion. What happened
to the "let the market decide" then?
Your lumping of issues is absolutely bizarre. The government should
never have banned cigarettes especially in light of its push for weed.
The government never had any business forcing people to wear masks
(which has proven to have little to no benefit to stop the spread) or
forcing people to get vaccinated when the got Covid anyway. Their is
no such thing as a "private drag show" when children are involved
anymore than there is such a thing as a "private strip show" when
children are involved. There are some things government must do to
protect the innocent but it requires careful watching to ensure that
it does not overstep.
Holman and Siri are all over the map.
They seem to subscribe to the "toss it at the wall and see what sticks" method of rebuttal.
As you've stated, it's bizarre.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
NoBody
2024-05-07 12:48:07 UTC
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On Mon, 6 May 2024 23:56:08 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
Neither party is the same as it was even 15 years ago. the democrat party is not the party of JFK
nor is the republican party the party of Reagan.
I lean left on some issues and right on other issues.
I am pro-life however I believe the heartbeat rule/law is a good compromise. And as I do believe in
state's rights, this should be left up to the voters in each state.
As for banning books, movies, media and so forth, I am 100% against that as I am a proponent of
free speech within reason.
At the same time I do believe that some material is just not appropriate for children but that
decision should be made by the parents with input from teachers, librarians and so forth.
I prefer less government intervention, a strong military, a strong trade policy and a put America
first policy.
I believe the new green deal is a bunch of crap that is putting our national security at risk.
Climate change is most likely real but mankind can do little to change it and those who are
promoting drastic climate change rules are self serving.
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing regulations on ICS vehicles
and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into this green stuff.
Why not let the market decide?
Why are the democrats so against that?
I voted Clinton who IMHO was sleazeball but a good POTUS.
I voted Obama.
I voted Reagan and both Bushes.
Admittedly Bush jr. was a disaster.
My biggest issue is the disastrous presidency that Biden's term has been. Biden has literally been
on the wrong side of every decision he has made. It's obvious he is a weak POTUS and favors China
over the US.
And if Trump made the same poor decisions that Biden has done, I would say the same.
So I am hardly a far right partisan but Joe Biden has to go. The man is and idiot and whomever is
pulling his strings is making one poor decision after another.
Your views are well expressed and I would agree with most of them. As
to news sources, I find that they all lie to one degree or another. I
don't have any patience whatsoever for people who insist that Fox is
evil incarnate while ignoring that virtually all the other major media
leans left and outright lies and ignores legitimate stories when it
doesn't fit their agenda.
pothead
2024-05-07 20:35:40 UTC
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On Mon, 6 May 2024 23:56:08 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
Neither party is the same as it was even 15 years ago. the democrat party is not the party of JFK
nor is the republican party the party of Reagan.
I lean left on some issues and right on other issues.
I am pro-life however I believe the heartbeat rule/law is a good compromise. And as I do believe in
state's rights, this should be left up to the voters in each state.
As for banning books, movies, media and so forth, I am 100% against that as I am a proponent of
free speech within reason.
At the same time I do believe that some material is just not appropriate for children but that
decision should be made by the parents with input from teachers, librarians and so forth.
I prefer less government intervention, a strong military, a strong trade policy and a put America
first policy.
I believe the new green deal is a bunch of crap that is putting our national security at risk.
Climate change is most likely real but mankind can do little to change it and those who are
promoting drastic climate change rules are self serving.
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing regulations on ICS vehicles
and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into this green stuff.
Why not let the market decide?
Why are the democrats so against that?
I voted Clinton who IMHO was sleazeball but a good POTUS.
I voted Obama.
I voted Reagan and both Bushes.
Admittedly Bush jr. was a disaster.
My biggest issue is the disastrous presidency that Biden's term has been. Biden has literally been
on the wrong side of every decision he has made. It's obvious he is a weak POTUS and favors China
over the US.
And if Trump made the same poor decisions that Biden has done, I would say the same.
So I am hardly a far right partisan but Joe Biden has to go. The man is and idiot and whomever is
pulling his strings is making one poor decision after another.
Your views are well expressed and I would agree with most of them. As
to news sources, I find that they all lie to one degree or another. I
don't have any patience whatsoever for people who insist that Fox is
evil incarnate while ignoring that virtually all the other major media
leans left and outright lies and ignores legitimate stories when it
doesn't fit their agenda.
Absolutely. The media all spin towards their particular POV. As I said in another post, I find the
right leaning media, cable news in particular, has far more liberal, left leaning hosts and guests
than the left leaning media.
In fact just this morning, Newsmax had attorney Gloria Allred on. She is a liberal who has had
suits against Trump.

This rarely happens with the left leaning media which is the majority of the media by far.

The likes of MSNBC, CNN, NPR spread their hate of Trump and conservatives 24x7 with panels
comprised completely of left wing guests. It's rare that they present the other side of the story.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-08 01:46:40 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Mon, 6 May 2024 23:56:08 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news
and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to
the right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there
are the few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find
what they want to hear at places even farther right. Places that,
with Fox, get penalized for lying way too often. They imagine
conspiracies with tens of thousands of participants, forgetting how
difficult it is for even three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the
era of Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as
much as they line up with wanting to control who bears children,
what books get read, what science gets taught, who gets to vote,
etc. I pray that when Trump finishes his self-destructive cycle,
the party can get back to its true values.
Neither party is the same as it was even 15 years ago. the democrat
party is not the party of JFK nor is the republican party the party
of Reagan.
I lean left on some issues and right on other issues.
I am pro-life however I believe the heartbeat rule/law is a good
compromise. And as I do believe in state's rights, this should be
left up to the voters in each state.
As for banning books, movies, media and so forth, I am 100% against
that as I am a proponent of free speech within reason.
At the same time I do believe that some material is just not
appropriate for children but that decision should be made by the
parents with input from teachers, librarians and so forth.
I prefer less government intervention, a strong military, a strong
trade policy and a put America first policy.
I believe the new green deal is a bunch of crap that is putting our
national security at risk. Climate change is most likely real but
mankind can do little to change it and those who are promoting
drastic climate change rules are self serving.
As for moving to EV's, electric heat, banning gas stoves, increasing
regulations on ICS vehicles and so forth I totally oppose that.
I'm not against these things, but people should not be forced into
this green stuff. Why not let the market decide?
Why are the democrats so against that?
I voted Clinton who IMHO was sleazeball but a good POTUS.
I voted Obama.
I voted Reagan and both Bushes.
Admittedly Bush jr. was a disaster.
My biggest issue is the disastrous presidency that Biden's term has
been. Biden has literally been on the wrong side of every decision he
has made. It's obvious he is a weak POTUS and favors China over the
US.
And if Trump made the same poor decisions that Biden has done, I would say the same.
So I am hardly a far right partisan but Joe Biden has to go. The man
is and idiot and whomever is pulling his strings is making one poor
decision after another.
Your views are well expressed and I would agree with most of them. As
to news sources, I find that they all lie to one degree or another.
I don't have any patience whatsoever for people who insist that Fox
is evil incarnate while ignoring that virtually all the other major
media leans left and outright lies and ignores legitimate stories
when it doesn't fit their agenda.
Absolutely. The media all spin towards their particular POV. As I said
in another post, I find the right leaning media, cable news in
particular, has far more liberal, left leaning hosts and guests than
the left leaning media. In fact just this morning, Newsmax had
attorney Gloria Allred on. She is a liberal who has had suits against
Trump.
This rarely happens with the left leaning media which is the majority of the media by far.
Rightwinger Rush Limbaugh - hosted by the "liberal" ABC.

Rightwinger Lou Dobbs - hosted by the "liberal" CNN

Rightwinger Megyn Kelly - hosted by the "liberal" NBC

Rightwinger Donald Trump - hosted by the "liberal" NBC
Governor Swill
2024-05-09 11:43:39 UTC
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Absolutely. The media all spin towards their particular POV. As I said in another post, I find the
right leaning media, cable news in particular, has far more liberal, left leaning hosts and guests
than the left leaning media.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

<breathe>

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You really are vying with Kremlin Girl for title of "Stupidest cunt on Usenet".

ROTFL!

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
NoBody
2024-05-10 11:20:53 UTC
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On Thu, 09 May 2024 07:43:39 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Absolutely. The media all spin towards their particular POV. As I said in another post, I find the
right leaning media, cable news in particular, has far more liberal, left leaning hosts and guests
than the left leaning media.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
<breathe>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You really are vying with Kremlin Girl for title of "Stupidest cunt on Usenet".
ROTFL!
Swill
Your inability to demonstrate with fact that he was wrong is noted.
You resulted to trolling...I shocked I tell you.

Governor Swill
2024-05-07 01:29:44 UTC
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Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
*standing ovation*

I've long supported Republicans in office until I saw the damage being done to the country
by co-opting the religious right into the party. It's been downhill for the GOP ever
since.

And like any parasite, the far right is going to kill its host.

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
NoBody
2024-05-07 12:56:29 UTC
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On Mon, 06 May 2024 21:29:44 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
*standing ovation*
Ha!
Post by Governor Swill
I've long supported Republicans in office until I saw the damage being done to the country
by co-opting the religious right into the party. It's been downhill for the GOP ever
since.
And like any parasite, the far right is going to kill its host.
So tell us which candidate is more likely to do unfixable damage. Make
sure you can cite your position with credible citations pls.
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
pothead
2024-05-07 20:39:57 UTC
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On Mon, 06 May 2024 21:29:44 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Amidst Climate Activism
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
Post by NoBody
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
*standing ovation*
Ha!
Post by Governor Swill
I've long supported Republicans in office until I saw the damage being done to the country
by co-opting the religious right into the party. It's been downhill for the GOP ever
since.
And like any parasite, the far right is going to kill its host.
So tell us which candidate is more likely to do unfixable damage. Make
sure you can cite your position with credible citations pls.
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
I too would rather have 2 different candidates but it is what it is.
As for damage, Joe Biden has literally destroyed the US and has contributed to putting the world in
turmoil due to his weakness and lack of leadership.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-08 01:33:43 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Mon, 06 May 2024 21:29:44 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Superyacht Sparks Controversy
Amidst Climate Activism
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
Post by NoBody
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news
and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to
the right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there
are the few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find
what they want to hear at places even farther right. Places that,
with Fox, get penalized for lying way too often. They imagine
conspiracies with tens of thousands of participants, forgetting how
difficult it is for even three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the
era of Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as
much as they line up with wanting to control who bears children,
what books get read, what science gets taught, who gets to vote,
etc. I pray that when Trump finishes his self-destructive cycle, the
party can get back to its true values.
*standing ovation*
Ha!
Post by Governor Swill
I've long supported Republicans in office until I saw the damage
being done to the country by co-opting the religious right into the
party. It's been downhill for the GOP ever since.
And like any parasite, the far right is going to kill its host.
So tell us which candidate is more likely to do unfixable damage.
Make sure you can cite your position with credible citations pls.
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
I too would rather have 2 different candidates but it is what it is.
As for damage, Joe Biden has literally destroyed the US and has
contributed to putting the world in turmoil due to his weakness and
lack of leadership.
Conservatives: Biden has ruined America!

Also Conservatives: Millions are desparate
to move to America!
Governor Swill
2024-05-09 12:04:21 UTC
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I too would rather have 2 different candidates but it is what it is.
As for damage, Joe Biden has literally destroyed the US and has contributed to putting the world in
turmoil due to his weakness and lack of leadership.
Trump left a time bomb, actually several, that blew up after we got rid of him.

Kissing dictator's asses is one. The debt is another.

During a 2017 briefing with senior officials, Trump responded to a presentation of charts
and graphics by saying, "Yeah, but I won't be here," according to a source The Daily Beast
said witnessed the comment."
<https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-debt-crisis-fine-wont-be-here-report-2018-12>

"I tried to watch the interview where Trump first proposed renegotiating U.S. debt, but I
couldn’t find it online. However, a transcript of his remarks appears on Nexis and, to my
surprise, Trump explicitly ruled out renegotiating the debt. But he also glibly spoke of
“[making] a deal” and appeared confused about key economic concepts related to debt. As
often happens with Trump, it’s tough to figure out his actual position."
<https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/05/what-trump-really-said-about-the-debt-000117/>

"Trump broke his promise to fix the debt. He'll blame Congress in 2020.
Analysis: The president said he'd eliminate the debt. Instead, he borrowed trillions more.
But he's betting the red ink won't stain him in 2020."
<https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-broke-his-promise-fix-debt-he-ll-blame-congress-n981866>

THIS is a REPUBLICAN??
"“People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are
crazy. This is the United States government,” Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo on “New Day.”
“First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you,
OK?” "
<https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-national-debt-strategy/index.html>

"President Trump on July 19 said, “I can't imagine anybody ever even thinking of using the
debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge."


Plenty more references on Trump and the debt.

<https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+says+he+won%27t+be+around+to+deal+with+the+debt&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=abf976e12d8dcb8e&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIJ2UkF5oR1hqHG8OisVSlgYe0Mr6g%3A1715254681272&ei=mbU8ZtKWEI3ekvQP3aKKsAc&ved=0ahUKEwiSx-fPvYCGAxUNr4QIHV2RAnYQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=trump+says+he+won%27t+be+around+to+deal+with+the+debt&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiM3RydW1wIHNheXMgaGUgd29uJ3QgYmUgYXJvdW5kIHRvIGRlYWwgd2l0aCB0aGUgZGVidEjcV1DVB1jHVXAGeAGQAQCYAb0BoAGVKaoBBTQzLjEzuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIIoALXBcICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAg0QABiABBiwAxhDGIoFwgIOEAAYsAMY5AIY1gTYAQHCAhMQLhiABBiwAxhDGMgDGIoF2AECwgIEECMYJ8ICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgoQLhiABBhDGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxiDARiKBcICERAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGIMBGMcBwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEY1AIYigXCAhAQABiABBixAxhDGIMBGIoFwgITEC4YgAQYsQMYQxiDARjUAhiKBcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIFEAAYgATCAgUQLhiABMICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgIOEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEYigWYAwCIBgGQBhO6BgYIARABGAm6BgYIAhABGAiSBwM1LjOgB7CLAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#ip=1>

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
NoBody
2024-05-08 13:33:56 UTC
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On Mon, 06 May 2024 21:29:44 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by John Doe
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
The problem with some of the posters is they have drifted so far to the
right, almost everything but Fox is "left" to them. Then there are the
few who find Fox just doesn't lie hard enough, so they find what they
want to hear at places even farther right. Places that, with Fox, get
penalized for lying way too often. They imagine conspiracies with tens
of thousands of participants, forgetting how difficult it is for even
three people to keep a secret.
Much of the population has shifted in recent decades. I used to
vacillate between liberal and conservative candidates, but in the era of
Trump, GOP values don't line up with conservatism nearly as much as they
line up with wanting to control who bears children, what books get read,
what science gets taught, who gets to vote, etc. I pray that when Trump
finishes his self-destructive cycle, the party can get back to its true
values.
*standing ovation*
Ha!
Post by Governor Swill
I've long supported Republicans in office until I saw the damage being done to the country
by co-opting the religious right into the party. It's been downhill for the GOP ever
since.
And like any parasite, the far right is going to kill its host.
So tell us which candidate is more likely to do unfixable damage. Make
sure you can cite your position with credible citations pls.
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
Once again Swilly vanishes.
NoBody
2024-05-07 14:08:47 UTC
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Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
You sure are!
Matt Singer
2024-05-07 18:28:33 UTC
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Post by NoBody
Post by Matt Singer
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media.
Nonsense.
You sure are!
That's childish of you.
pothead
2024-05-06 17:33:37 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignore that?
With the exception of AM talk radio that is true.
And AM radio is on life support.
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
"Reality has a liberal bias." Or as Anderson Cooper once explained it, you can't travel
the globe covering wars and disasters without feeling compassion for people.
And yet faith based organizations are among the most generous of
givers. That's not liberal.
Good one.
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
That's what today's liberalism is: Christian compassion run amok.
Christians rely on people's hearts to give, not the force of
government. Stop trying to divert from the liberals' dirty deads.
Correct.
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING like what passes for facts on the likes of the
various network news.
And that is on both sides.
Finally.
But largely controlled by the left...unless you have a different
analysis you can provide us?
Correct.
And by far.
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mr. B1ack
2024-05-06 17:36:45 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignore that?
With the exception of AM talk radio that is true.
And AM radio is on life support.
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
"Reality has a liberal bias." Or as Anderson Cooper once explained it, you can't travel
the globe covering wars and disasters without feeling compassion for people.
And yet faith based organizations are among the most generous of
givers. That's not liberal.
Good one.
Shut up, you stupid castrato.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-06 17:48:09 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignore that?
With the exception of AM talk radio that is true.
And AM radio is on life support.
Modern Conservative: Someone who took time
out from listening to Rush Limbaugh on the ABC
Network and Don Imus on the ABC Network and
Sean Hannity on the ABC Network to accuse the
ABC Network of being "liberal media".
Governor Swill
2024-05-07 01:32:18 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignore that?
With the exception of AM talk radio that is true.
And AM radio is on life support.
Modern Conservative: Someone who took time
out from listening to Rush Limbaugh on the ABC
Network and Don Imus on the ABC Network and
Sean Hannity on the ABC Network to accuse the
ABC Network of being "liberal media".
Good one.

Swill
--
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<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


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NoBody
2024-05-07 12:58:38 UTC
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On Mon, 06 May 2024 21:32:18 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignore that?
With the exception of AM talk radio that is true.
And AM radio is on life support.
Modern Conservative: Someone who took time
out from listening to Rush Limbaugh on the ABC
Network and Don Imus on the ABC Network and
Sean Hannity on the ABC Network to accuse the
ABC Network of being "liberal media".
Good one.
Swill
Rush Limbaugh is dead.
Don Imus is dead.
Sean Hannity is on Fox.

Did you have ANY real point to make here? Not one of Mitchie's
examples is true today.
NoBody
2024-05-08 13:34:39 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Mon, 06 May 2024 21:32:18 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignore that?
With the exception of AM talk radio that is true.
And AM radio is on life support.
Modern Conservative: Someone who took time
out from listening to Rush Limbaugh on the ABC
Network and Don Imus on the ABC Network and
Sean Hannity on the ABC Network to accuse the
ABC Network of being "liberal media".
Good one.
Swill
Rush Limbaugh is dead.
Don Imus is dead.
Sean Hannity is on Fox.
Did you have ANY real point to make here? Not one of Mitchie's
examples is true today.
I guess Swilly is going to claim he already posted his response again.
NoBody
2024-05-07 13:01:27 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:46:07 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Again you pretend that only the left and center are affected by this problem.
The left holds the vast majority of the media. Are you seriously
trying to ignroe that?
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
"Reality has a liberal bias." Or as Anderson Cooper once explained it, you can't travel
the globe covering wars and disasters without feeling compassion for people.
And yet faith based organizations are among the most generous of
givers. That's not liberal.
Post by Governor Swill
That's what today's liberalism is: Christian compassion run amok.
Christians rely on people's hearts to give, not the force of
government. Stop trying to divert from the liberals' dirty deads.
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING like what passes for facts on the likes of the
various network news.
And that is on both sides.
Finally.
But largely controlled by the left...unless you have a different
analysis you can provide us?
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
Once again, Swilly can't deal with reality.
NoBody
2024-05-06 13:09:05 UTC
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On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.
You support that, right?
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING like what passes for facts on the likes of the
various network news.
And that is on both sides.
The so-called fairness doctrine was for the benefit of liberals.
Interesting that Mtichie would bring this up in light of the fact that
libs dominate the media narrative.
pothead
2024-05-06 17:27:59 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing,
like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.
You support that, right?
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and leave the commentary to the talk
show circuit.
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't pick up on it.
He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING like what passes for facts on the likes of the
various network news.
And that is on both sides.
The so-called fairness doctrine was for the benefit of liberals.
Interesting that Mtichie would bring this up in light of the fact that
libs dominate the media narrative.
It sure was.
--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-06 17:39:41 UTC
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Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sun, 5 May 2024 18:34:43 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:55:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left
wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say
that because you don't know the difference between the news and
editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that
information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7
commentary, editorializing and op-ed type 'reporting'.
Sounds like a good reason to renew the Fairness Doctrine.
You support that, right?
Actually the time has come for the libbys to report the news and
leave the commentary to the talk show circuit.
Walter Cronkite was a libby but for the most part the viewers didn't
pick up on it. He was not perfect of course however he was NOTHING
like what passes for facts on the likes of the various network news.
And that is on both sides.
The so-called fairness doctrine was for the benefit of liberals.
Interesting that Mtichie would bring this up in light of the fact
that libs dominate the media narrative.
It sure was.
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Governor Swill
2024-05-07 01:33:48 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
The so-called fairness doctrine was for the benefit of liberals.
Interesting that Mtichie would bring this up in light of the fact
that libs dominate the media narrative.
It sure was.
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
That's going to leave a mark.

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


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NoBody
2024-05-07 12:38:16 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
The so-called fairness doctrine was for the benefit of liberals.
Interesting that Mtichie would bring this up in light of the fact
that libs dominate the media narrative.
It sure was.
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
That's going to leave a mark.
Swill
Why? That isn't what was said.
It was just more of Mitchie trying to reframe an argument because he
can't engage.
Siri Cruise
2024-05-07 19:56:30 UTC
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Post by NoBody
It was just more of Mitchie trying to reframe an argument because he
can't engage.
Ha-ha!
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NoBody
2024-05-08 13:31:22 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by NoBody
It was just more of Mitchie trying to reframe an argument because he
can't engage.
Ha-ha!
Glad you agree with how pathetic Mitchie is.
Governor Swill
2024-05-06 01:40:58 UTC
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Post by pothead
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7 commentary, editorializing and op-ed
type 'reporting'.
This is true on both sides so why do you still bother with them?
Post by pothead
And the problem is that the citizens are so low information when it comes to current events and
especially politics, that they have no idea what is really going on.
This is true on both sides. Why do you pretend this phenomenon only affects Democrats and
liberals?
Post by pothead
Many of them can tell you who has the current lead on 'Dancing With The Stars' though or similar
such useless information.
Europeans will tell you they consider Americans the worst informed but best entertained
people on earth.

The Romans used 'bread and circuses' too.

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


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Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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NoBody
2024-05-06 13:36:54 UTC
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On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:40:58 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7 commentary, editorializing and op-ed
type 'reporting'.
This is true on both sides so why do you still bother with them?
Post by pothead
And the problem is that the citizens are so low information when it comes to current events and
especially politics, that they have no idea what is really going on.
This is true on both sides. Why do you pretend this phenomenon only affects Democrats and
liberals?
Post by pothead
Many of them can tell you who has the current lead on 'Dancing With The Stars' though or similar
such useless information.
Europeans will tell you they consider Americans the worst informed but best entertained
people on earth.
Going to back that claim about Europeans?
Post by Governor Swill
The Romans used 'bread and circuses' too.
So do Democrats.
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
NoBody
2024-05-07 13:02:08 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sun, 05 May 2024 21:40:58 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The networks are no longer reporting the news but it's 24x7 commentary, editorializing and op-ed
type 'reporting'.
This is true on both sides so why do you still bother with them?
Post by pothead
And the problem is that the citizens are so low information when it comes to current events and
especially politics, that they have no idea what is really going on.
This is true on both sides. Why do you pretend this phenomenon only affects Democrats and
liberals?
Post by pothead
Many of them can tell you who has the current lead on 'Dancing With The Stars' though or similar
such useless information.
Europeans will tell you they consider Americans the worst informed but best entertained
people on earth.
Going to back that claim about Europeans?
<crickets.wav>

And he has the nerve to claim I never back my claims...
Post by NoBody
Post by Governor Swill
The Romans used 'bread and circuses' too.
So do Democrats.
Post by Governor Swill
Swill
David Hartung
2024-05-06 15:39:22 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say that because you don't
know the difference between the news and editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Post by Governor Swill
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
No proof of that, of course.
Post by pothead
And the problem is that the citizens are so low information when it comes to current events and
especially politics, that they have no idea what is really going on.
I always laugh when an obviously low-information fuckwit refers to others as
"low information."
Governor Swill
2024-05-07 01:35:05 UTC
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Post by David Hartung
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say that because you don't
know the difference between the news and editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Post by Governor Swill
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
No proof of that, of course.
You really are a idiot, aren't you? Seriously, medically diagnosable as a drooling idiot.
Post by David Hartung
Post by pothead
And the problem is that the citizens are so low information when it comes to current events and
especially politics, that they have no idea what is really going on.
I always laugh when an obviously low-information fuckwit refers to others as
"low information."
That's because as a drooling idiot, you're a no information voter.

Swill
--
Trump cites FBI stats to prove crime going down, 2019

<https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-down-does-president-trump-deserve-credit>

Trump dismisses FBI stats that prove crime is going down, 2024

<https://people.com/fact-check-trump-false-claims-crime-rates-8624660>


Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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NoBody
2024-05-07 13:00:42 UTC
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On Mon, 06 May 2024 21:35:05 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by David Hartung
Post by pothead
Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say that because you don't
know the difference between the news and editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Post by Governor Swill
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
They all do.
No proof of that, of course.
You really are a idiot, aren't you? Seriously, medically diagnosable as a drooling idiot.
Well his Rudely and that's pretty much synomymous with idiot.
NoBody
2024-05-06 13:38:21 UTC
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Post by NoBody
On Sat, 04 May 2024 20:01:18 -0400, Governor Swill
Post by Governor Swill
Post by pothead
The mainstream media is most left wing and some are far left wing, like NPR for example.
You say that because you're a right wing extremist. You also say that because you don't
know the difference between the news and editorializing.
The news is information.
It's pure propaganda rarely containing actual information.
Post by Governor Swill
Editorializing is telling you what to think about that information.
Tell us which networks don't editorialize in their reporting.
And Swill the troll has nothing of value to offer.
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